Temp Attributes and Stats

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This is an overview of Attributes, sub-Attributes, and non-attritive Derived Stats. Attritive Derived Stats such as Blood Points and Spell Energy Points (and Hit Points, in the increasingly unlikely event that they are actually allowed to remain in the system) will either be added later, or else be defined in a separate document, including the derivation formulae.

Note that some of the formulae below, for (non-attritive) Derived Stats, may be changed later. Also ntote that Attributes and sub-Attributes use different Cost Factor systems. CF5 doesn't mean the same for an Attribute as for a sub-Attribute.

Attribute	Value	Cost Factor (for Humans)	Notes
Dexterity	Base Dexterity	5	Parent Attribute (Primary Attribute)
Dexterity	Combat Dexterity	5?	Used for interacting with moving or far-away objects, typically of unarmed, melee weapon and ranged combat
Dexterity	Manual Dexterity	3?	Used for precise interaction with immobile objects, typically as the basis for crafts Skills and manual thief Skills

Since Dexterity splits into only two sub-Attributes, their cost need to be fairly high. Medium'ish cost for Manual Dexterity, maybe CF3, and high'ish cost for Combat Dexterity, probably CF5, because of the potential for combat monster optimization.

Note that Agility exists as a separate Attribute, governing precise and graceful whole-body movement.

Attribute	Value	Cost Factor (for Humans)	Notes
Constitution	Base Constitution	5	Parent Attribute (Primary Attribute)
Constitution	Resist Disease	3?	Used to resist diseases
Constitution	Resist Poison	3?	Used to resist poisons
Constitution	Aging Roll	-	Base values equal to (3+Con)/2 rounded, not modified as a sub-Attribute, but using some other scheme
Constitution	Fertility
Constitution	Recovery
Constitution	Stamina	SP	Stamina Levels are purchased with Skill Points and "go on top" of Constitution to determine the character's total Endurance

Constitution has two true sub-Attributes, so their cost needs to be high'ish, maybe CF3 each. The cost of modifying Aging Roll, Fertility and Recovery must depend on whether Constitution is an even or odd number (see mailing list post). Recovery is a potentially very powerful Derived Attribute, for creating combat optimized characters, so must be expensive to buy up. Fertility is of little importance, but note the potential for choosing to create a completely Sterie character. Aging Roll is in-between, mattering a lot in some campaigns, not at all in others.

Stamina is purchased with Skill Points (as a Training) and as such does not use the Cost Factor system.

Attribute	Value	Cost Factor (for Humans)	Notes
Will	Base Will	5	Parent Attribute (Primary Attribute)
Will	Resist Domination	2?	Used to resists attempts at supernatural mind control (magical, psionic, or hypnosis)
Will	Resist Fear	2?	Used to resist fear, whether from a mundane or magical source
Will	Resist Manipulation	2?	Used to resist social manipulation, such as Seduction. Note that attempts to bewilder are instead resists with Intelligence
Will	Resist Pain	2?*	Used to resist pain. Not too sure, actually, if this is best as a sub-Attribute, or as a three-axis differentiation into Low Pain Threshold, Normal and High Pain Threshold. Until further notice it remains as a sub-Attribute.
Will	WillPower Points	-	the basis from which WP are derived. Can equal Will, be 3 higher, be 10 higher, or have Faith added in.

Will divides into 4 true sub-Attributes, so Cost Factor should be low'ish, and a bit lower for female Humans for Resist Pain, even though that's a stereotype rather than scientific fact. CF1.5 might be appropriate

Attribute	Value	Cost Factor (for Humans)	Notes
Intelligence	Parent Attribute	5	General intellectual potential
Intelligence	Casual Intelligence	-	The character's inclination to think, to stop and wonder, when he's off-guard. Usually 2 lower than Intelligence itself
Intelligence	Interpersonal Intelligence	1?*	Potential for learning to understand other people's inner state and psychology
Intelligence	Linguistic Intelligence	1?*	Potential for learning and using languages, e.g. foreign languages, writing prose, composing poetry
Intelligence	Logical Intelligence	1?*	Potential for learning subject matter that requires logic
Intelligence	Mnemonic Intellignce	1?	Potential for learning material that is facts-intensive, e.g. History Skills
Intelligence	Musical Intelligence	1?	Potential for learning musical Skills, including Instruments, Singing and Musical Composition
Intelligence	Mystical Intelligence	1?	Potential for learning and understanding mystical matters, such as Spellcasting Skills
Intelligence	Spatial Intelligence	1?*	Potential for learning and understanding 2D and 3D spatial relations, useful for mechanics, tactics and strategy
Intelligence	Thinking Speed	1?	Thinking quickly, even in crisis situations

Intelligence divides into many sub-Attributes, so Cost Factor should be low'ish, probably 1, but raised slightly, perhaps to CF1.5, for some sub-Attributes depending on sex. CF1.5 might be appropriate for female Humans for Logical and Spatial Intelligence, and likewise CF1.5 for male Humans for Interpersonal and Linguistic Intelligence.

The Casual penalty, usually -2, must be recorded, since this is often applied to a sub-Attribute, e.g. when the GM tells a player to roll for Casual Interpersonal Intelligence.

Casual Intelligence, Casual Perception and Casual Charisma can all be increased via Genius Traits, and via Mental Training Style Stunts, and they can also be lowered (relative to the Parent Attribute) via Disadvantages.

Attribute	Value	Cost Factor (for Humans)	Notes
Perception	Base Perception	5	Parent Attribute
Perception	Casual Perception	-	The Casual version
Perception	Perception (Vision)	?	The Sense of Vision
Perception	Perception (Hearing)	?	The Sense of Hearing
Perception	Perception (Smell)	?	The Sense of Smell
Perception	Perception (Taste)	?	The Sense of Taste
Perception	Perception (Touch)	?	The Sense of Touch

Casual Perception is used when a character has no reason to be alart and on guard. The GM should err on the side of genrous caution when it comes to assuming that the character has good in-character reasons to pay attention to his surroundings.

Attribute	Value	Cost Factor (for Humans)	Notes
Charisma	Base Charisma	5	The Parent Attribute. Called Active Charisma when used to make First Impressions
Charisma	Casual Charisma	-

The use of non-Casual Charisma to make First Impressions on people can sometimes cause problems. A paranoid spouse or girl/boyfriend (or parent, or slave) may interpret the use of Active Charisma as an attempt to seduce. This mostly matters when a woman used Active Charisma on a man, or vice versa, but some NPCs may be paranoid about homosexual seduction, for a variety of reasons.

Also, use of Active Charisma on a member of a despised group (e.g. a slave, or a pagan or heretic) may be seen as pandering to this group, by others, who view it as an attempt to suck up to one's inferiors. A character who has an Animosity or some other relevant Flaw may also find it difficult or even impossible to use Active Charisma in some situations.

Primary Attributes that don't have sub-Attributes

Attribute	Value	Cost Factor (for Humans)	Notes
Agility	Agility
Psyche	Psyche
Faith	Faith

Secondary Attributes

Attribute	Value	Cost Factor (for Humans)	Notes
Strength	fictional Attribute	-	Strength doesn't really "exist" as a Parent Attribute
Strength	Arm Strength	SP	Upper Body Strength (Arms, Shoulders, Chest, Abdomen)
Strength	Leg Strength	SP	Lower Body Strength (Legs, Buttocks)
Face Control	Face Control	?	Control of facial muscles, making it easier to make sure the facial expression is as desired and does not give any secrets away ("poker face")
Vocal Control	Vocal Control	?	Control of the vocal apparatus, to manipulate tone of voice precisely, and imitate voices and sounds
Frame	Frame	?	The character's general "bone size" within his gross Size category (Size is always 3 for Humans). Purchased in 0.5 increments
Height	Height	?	The character's height relative to his Frame. Height 3 is proportional, Height 4 and 5 are more and more "stretched", Height 6 is freaky stretched and thin, while Height 2 and 1 are increasingly squat and broad
Hardiness	Hardiness	?	The charater's resistance to physical injury. Human average is 3, maximum is 4.5, and is purchased in 0.5 increments.
Appearance	Appearance	?	The visual quality of the character's face, eyes, skin, hair, according to non-cultural species-wide standards (with some cross-species potential, e.g. in many worlds Humans and Elves seem to share stndards, although Elves verae higher Appearance than Humans)

Derived stats

Attribute	Value	Cost Factor (for Humans)	Notes